This is a new feature of my blog. As with most people I know, many of my friends forward emails to me. 90% of them are useless but every now and then there is something very interesting in the email. I don’t like to forward as a general rule, but I will take some of these select emails and post them here, on my blog. This blog then goes out to my Facebook and many people get to read it. Here is the first one…
About time we accept this attitude. We’ve had enough damage to this country by “Political Correctness”
America, Canada, all Europe ….. needs a President like this
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia
During a very recent speech here are some points that PM Kevin Rudd made.
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques.
Quote: ‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.’
‘This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the Language!’
‘Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.’
‘We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.’
‘This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.’
‘If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted..’
Maybe if we circulate this , American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
Well, let the flames begin! If you liked this post please use the buttons below to email it or put it on your Facebook also.
About time we accept this attitude. We’ve had enough damage to this country by “Political Correctness”
America, Canada, all Europe ….. needs a President like this
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd – Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques.
Quote: ‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.’
‘This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the Language!’
‘Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.’
‘We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.’
‘This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.’
‘If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted..’
Maybe if we circulate this , American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
Once again we see how easy it is for corporate America to control the media with ease. This time it is Sears/Kmart and their new Christmas club. Today I was watching the local news, something I try to avoid, and they had a 2 minute story on this subject. Basically here is the deal, you “save” your money by buying a gift card for Sears/Kmart and they are so nice that they will give you a 3% bonus.
It does not really mention that you MUST now spend all of that money only with Sears/Kmart and their sister companies. They promoted it with multiple interviews and such with no opinion other than “DO IT NOW, or else you are stupid” But to me I see this as a very dumb gimic, and worse it could harm people by locking them into buying from these companies. They don’t price match here, and they don’t give refunds from the money “saved” in this account, so if there is a better price somewhere else you are stuck. If you need your money for an emergency you are stuck. If you lose the card you are stuck, if you forget about it they keep the extra money and you are stuck.
Now I don’t fault Sears/Kmart for doing this. For them it makes money, and in these times they need to find every way to make money, heck if I was them I would be loving this program, they get to borrow millions of dollars just when they need it, and they get locked in customers allowing them to predict their holiday sales with ease. On top of that they get all of this nice media attention. Totally brilliant on their part.
I DO fault the local media, trying to fill their “News” broadcast with junk like this, with no couterpoint, and promoting it as the sencable thing to do. They were saying that this card was better than using a back, due to the 3% bonus. I also did a quick google search and found ton’s of blogs jumping on the band wagon. Totally crazy.
It would be better to just put cash in a piggy bank and wait for Christmas, or even sock it away in some sort of Auto Savings plan at your local bank. You need to keep your money free, free to be spent where you can get the best deal, and free to be used when you need it.
For about 2 years I have been blogging. At first it was really fun and exciting. But as time went on I started to feel more and more confined by my subject matter. It was a business blog, but I wanted to have a nice and in depth look at business. I soon started making each entry very long and very in depth and it became much more like work and less fun. Back in August I helped someone else create a blog, but I did the mistake of doing it with my account on wordpress. They did some things on their blog that made the people at wordpress unhappy. So they shut down all of my blogs. This one, the ones for a few of my clients and even my wholesale computer blog. I quickly got this one back up and running, and re-branded it “The Biz Guy” But then I decided to take a break from blogging for a bit, relax and come back with something fresh.
The break is over, and I am back. I have tons of fresh ideas, fresh content and I would really like to you subscribe to my blog. I will strive to create something interesting a few times a day. I have also decided to be much more real. Before I often tried to be politically neutral, and neutral on many different controversial topics, and that HAS ENDED. You will get my opinion, how ever wrong you may think it is. I will point out the idiots and the business blunders as I see them. Everything will still be written from the perspective of me, an entrepreneur, an über geek, a Christian, a right-wing constitutionalist, a world trailer, an avid reader, and a patriot. Hang on it will be a fun ride. Subscribe by clicking a link up there in the top right.
So many people have been wondering why I have not been blogging for a long time. Well one of the main reasons is that I have been totally distracted by a game that I found called Evony, it is really interesting. It is a game where you build a city, you create the economy, then you build up armies and fight other people.
It is a lot like Age of Empires, even with similar graphics, but it takes place in “Real Time”. Everything takes hours and hours to build, and some research things can take two weeks. At first I did not like how it was so slow, then I started to like it. It does not give people a major advantage by how many hours per day that they play, it is more designed for the person who wants to log on every day for 30 minutes and relax, just like me. Some days I use it for more than 30 minutes, but other days I know I can set all the things to build and then spend a day or two away from the game. Also because I fix computers and design websites most of the day I can sit here and do a few clicks on the game while waiting for software to install, or when I am on the phone. It really is quite relaxing.
There are two nice things that make the game really interesting. First is the market. You can buy and sell resources with other players. But what is really cool is that it is a true market, it works just like the stock market. In fact the market interface is like E-Trade in the Nasdaq level 2 part. You can see what other people are selling and bidding at and you can choose where to set your price. You can even play the market and move prices up or down by moving huge volume, and then reverse the trend a bit later to make money. I tried it a few times but it was too much work to do that.
The next really cool thing is that you join alliances, and your alliance will team up with other alliances and you organize to war against other people. You also get to chat with your alliance members and after a while they start seeming like friends. I have played a few other online multiplayer games but none of them really got me into it like this. Our alliance has leaders and also people who think they can lead but fail, it is really a good microcosm of the business world.
So if you ever play you can look for me. I am on server 7. My username is AzDragon, and my towns are in a place called Lombardy.
There also is a good business lesson in Evony. Basically that success comes from daily activity towards your goal, just like in business. Every day for my business I place ads, make and receive phone calls, research the industry, and hopefully make sales. In Evony, you build armies, upgrade buildings, and attack computer and human players. But in both over time you get stronger and stronger, you start to have more and more success, and eventually you reach a point where you would be considered successful.
Well I have moved my blog to my own server. I have actually wanted to do this for a while because it is much more flexible and more powerful. But on tuesday it become necessary because wordpress decided that my blog was just advertising. I am sure they did not read it, because as most of my readers know there is very little advertising on here, and tons of great content, IMHO.
So I went off to recreate my blog. I was able to install wordpress.org on my server with ease, took under a minute. Then I found the theme I used before. Then I started to look for my old blog entries, I was able to find over 100 online, and I have been reposting them into this blog using the original posting date. For most of the entries the old cached version did not have the photos so they are missing now. So far I have taken about 25 of my most recent entries and a few of the older more popular ones and put them back up. It will be a long process to put them all up, and some older, less relevant ones will not be reposted.
With the new location I decided to go with a new name, more of a brand name…. “The Biz Guy” is great, because that is what I want to be about business, but I wanted a more edgy name than the “The Business Blog” I was able to update all my feeds to reflect the new location. I will no longer get the 100-200 people a day I got from google, maybe google will find the new location, but I doubt it.
If you have linked to my blog, please update your links. I really need the traffic now.
For over 5 years I have always wanted to be more involved in investing in real estate. I have helped out many people with their investing, but the amount of investing that I have done for myself was not enough. Sure I bought a few properties but nothing that was a turnkey money making solution….well that is UNTIL NOW.
Over the last few months I have spent countless hours educating myself, working on my connections, and working on a new website for Capital Active. Well it is done now. I have a functional site up and running. But the REAL work was done finding and securing assignments on over 30 awesome wholesale deals. You heard me right, you can now click HERE and find over 30, way below fair market value properties that you can invest in or simply buy for your own use!!! This has me really excited. It was a lot of work but it is worth it.
On top of having all of these great deals, I also have lined up people to help home buyers buy these homes, and if you are an investor we can help you find a tenant.
The readers of this blog will have the FIRST shot at buying these houses from me. If you are interested in any of these please contact me ASAP, I hope these will go fast, they should because they are killer deals.
Everyone wants to be a millionaire. I always had it as a goal, a first step. First I wanted to do it by the time I was 25, then I set it for 30. Now I have a goal of doing it while I am 35. But this time I have a firm plan to get there.
First off most people think that if you are one you will be set for life. In many cases that is correct, but in most cases it took risk to get the million and most people who have it take those same risks and lose it. There are ways to earn without too much risk, but mostly that is very slow. Other people simply go crazy, they get the money too easily and spend it all. Over 80% of lottery winners have a negative net worth just 5 years after they win. They get this huge lifestyle, and then spend spend spend, and when the money runs out they borrow like crazy.
I personally know a lot of millionaires. I don’t know of any who made the money trading time for money or having a job. I know a few who won it, but the VAST majority worked hard, ran a business and invested the profits. Some are in farming, some are in insurance, other have a business in one form or another but most are in real estate. And all of the millionaires that I have asked about this invest heavily in real estate. Time and time I hear that no matter how you make your millions that real estate is the best place to store the money. Another common factor among those that have made and kept millions is that they live WAY below what you expect. They drive older cars, they don’t shop at the fancy shops. Most of them live on less than 60k per year. That is still 5,000 per month. While they were making their money they lived on much less. Those people you see shopping at all the ritzy malls and spending thousands of dollars are usually people who earn a lot, and spend even more and have a negative net worth.
So what does it take to have a net worth over a million dollars. I define it as all assets, at the price you could sell it for today minus all debt. It is hard to value a business so I usually set that as valued as 8 times last years earnings as long as you project those earnings to go on. Using that measure I actually was a millionaire once during the years that my business was really profitable, but I could not project that computers would become a commodity and that my business would start to lose money at huge rates until I was in the hole.
Also you can only grow your net worth from your personal profits each month. If you have $3,000 in monthly expenses you need to deduct that from your income before you see if you have enough. For me I have about $3,000 that I must spend each month to stay current. About half of that is servicing debt, and could be gone if the interest rates were not so low. If I am starting with a net worth of zero and I want to be a millionaire in 2 years I need to pack away about $42k per MONTH. That is a crazy number, and that is why people with jobs don’t hit it. Even if you had 8% interest on your side and you wanted to do it in 10 long years you would need to save over $7,000 per MONTH. This is why less than 1% of the people are millionaires. Even if you earned $120k per year and spent only $3k per month it would take you 10 years of constant effort. The biggest problem is that when you earn that much, you usually hang out with other people who earn that much, and they start talking about their new cars, second homes and their vacations, and you feel “less than” for living on such a meager $3k per month and you can not maintain it. It is like a bucket with a ton of holes in it, the more water you pour in the faster the holes take it out, and it never really gets full. So the answer is clearly not a job, even a high paying one. You have the limit of how much you can earn because of who you work for and with. So a business is really the only answer, but to have a good business you need to be as good or better than all of the other businesses out there, or you need to have an idea that really sets you apart. If you have a really great idea that can duplicate all over the world you can even become an instant billionaire. This is what they folks at YouTube, Facebook and Twitter have done. The first ones cashed out when the company was only 7 months old. The second two have yet to cash out, though twitter just sold 2% of the company for $200 million, making the company worth over $10 billion. But it is hard to come up with such an idea, most usually stumble upon it early.
So now we all have an up hill battle to climb. So if you want to be a millionaire in 2 years from today you need to come up with an idea that makes you $50k per month on a constant basis. Or if you want to build and sell a business you need make one that earns $125k-$150k next year, and that number is AFTER your take from the company because the company will need your or someone like you after you sell it. The way you design a million dollar company is much different than the way you design a company that just pays your bills.
When you are looking for a large net worth you need to keep in mind the laws of large numbers. One of the easiest ways to get there is to sell a product over and over. Even if you only make $10 each time you do it, that means that you need to sell 100,000 items. So plan your business accordingly. If you need to sell 100,000 items that means that about only one out of every 1,000 households needs to buy your product. Depending on your product that may mean that only 1% of the population even needs to know about your product. But to even get 1% penetration may be a hard thing to do. But one good viral video could do it for you, or one good endorsement. Thousands have made it rich this way.
You can also get there by helping others reach for their dreams. Imagine if you could help people earn a living and you got a cut of what they did. For me this was always by hiring sales people. I basically would set their wages to where they would get 40% of the profits that they generated. I would pay for their phone, a place for them to work, I would help them close deals and I would design the products that they sold, I would even pay for them to have a base salary in case sales were slow that week. The more successful they would be the more successful I would be. If I have 3 or even 4 of these people it would keep me busy. Imagine if I had 30 or 40, and if they averaged making $2000 for themselves per month, that means that each one would make me $3000 per month. That alone is a million in a year! Becoming a millionaire is REALLY a team sport. I don’t know anyone who has worked to get a million who did not have a team behind them. Most people I know help out people all of the time because the more people they help the more they make in the long run.
If you want to make it rich selling something, or helping other people get rich you need a system to manage the entire thing. A system is really the key. The good part is with a little math you can start to think about the system now, you can design the system now that will take you to the millions you want to have. A good system with the right principles will take you there. Run a simulation on your system, if it does average will it get you to where you want to be, is your system too small? Is your system too hopeful, does it require that something unknown will happen to catapult you into your success, if that is the case it probably will not happen. You can’t predict such things.
I really hope this helps you put your dreams in perspective. And I hope you start to think how duplicating a successful system will get you there. You need to focus on people, you need to focus on results. Your plan must have the muscle to get you to your goals.
When you get your millions remember the little guys, remember to give back. Millionaires are some of the nicest, most humble and most generous people I know. Most millionaires are not they greedy people the movies and media make them out to be. They usually are very humble because they know that peopled helped them along the way, and that being nice to people and helping others is the key to their success. They feel lucky that they made it.
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Well the stats are rather convincing. Look HERE for all of the stats. For houses priced under $175k there is very little inventory and prices are going up. WOW, this makes me feel much better. What is most awesome about this is that most sellers still don’t know, so there are plenty of really good deals out there.
I want to make my money in real estate and I see that the time is getting short. I spent over 10 hours today working on my real estate business. Tomorrow I plan to do at least 8 hours.
The other day Adrian posted a great blog entry that really got me thinking. His idea is that the number one most important lesson to be learned by people who want to be rich or be better off is not delayed gratification, not saving, and not any of those other things that all the books tell you. Instead it is the concept of actually respecting your money.
Please read his blog, it is good, but I want to take it even farther. I think that you respect for money is based mostly on what you learned from your parents. When I say respect I mean that you value money, you value the stuff that you own that you bought with your money. I have found that most rich people I know have a deep respect for money. Some of the richest people I know watch where they spend. They almost never throw anything away, they will have a sale first. This is not being frugal, these people will invest in very expensive quality items that will give them long term enjoyment and even have a residual value. They will buy things, but when they do they make sure that they get the best value. They also think long term, and they look at the total cost of something, including the financing cost.
For years I have been in retail sales, owning my own computer company. I have always had the hardest negotiation with those that were rich. They would fight for every dollar to get the best deal, and I would give it to them. But the people who could barely afford my services would never ask for a discount. I have had friends who are always out of money, but they would ask me to go out to a restaurant with me and they would spend 2-3 times as much as I did. I value my money, so I look for the best value when I spend it, at a restaurant that means usually having a coupon and usually I order one large item that will fill me up. But most people order a smaller item, then the add on the salad, an appetizer and then if that is still not enough they add on dessert. This same guy also had his car break down, it was going to be 400 to fix it, so he decided that it was time to get a newer car. He found a car that was worth about $7000 and he bought it from a dealership that caters to people like him, he paid over $11,000 after he traded in his old one, and he agreed to 24% interest. He did not need this car now, and I had connections he could had used to get it much cheaper BUT he needed it THAT DAY, he could not wait, and he paid the price for it.
Needing gratification now is the KEY that keeps most poor people poor. Companies know this. Car dealerships are told to get people to fall in love with the car then tell them that they need to buy it now to get that one. One of the most profitable segments in our economy right now are the rent to own stores, just pay a bit now and you can take these new items home. The typical price is about 350% the price you would pay if you just bought it at walmart today.
But the other most common trend among these people is that they never would think of starting their own business. They usually don’t think about selling their old stuff, they simply give it away. A friend of mine is in charge of cleaning up houses after they give their keys to the bank, and it is astounding how much stuff of great value they leave behind. They leave furniture, toys, TV’s, computers, clothes lighting, and boxes and boxes of stuff. Why did they not sell this stuff, and pay their mortgage…we will never know.
People that respect and value their money are able to live much much longer with out money. A lot of people who own businesses now are also hurting, they have lost their business, they have lost their credit, yet almost all of them that I know are doing quite well, they manage to find money to pay the bills each month, they sell things, they dabble in freelancing for other companies, they do consulting, but the bottom line is that they do what they need to to keep afloat. Then I know other people, who have never had that drive, and they sit at home all day playing video games, and they do nothing other than look for handouts.
This fundimental view of money does a lot more than effect our personal lives, it also shapes our nation. Because the rich and poor spend money so differently they often scratch their head when they look at eachother. When I had a lot of money, yet I would still buy things on sale, and I drove a modest SUV and such, many people wondered why I did not spend more, why I was also so “cheap”, it was not logical to them. And then I look at them, and how much they spend when they have nothing and I can’t understand it, it is not logical to me.
To me and others the most frustrating part of people not respecting money is when it is your money that they are not respecting. At this time our governments are spending money at record levels, our money, and they are doing it with very little respect. They give money away, they waste money all over the place. Right now they are spending our kids money, but soon they will start spending ours. The plan to start taxing energy soon, and many other things.
So think about how much you respect you money. I would love to hear what you think, please leave a comment.
The world as we know it is over, unless something drastic happens in the next 24 hours or so. For the entire history of our nation business has been the engine that has spurned our growth. And the engine of big business has been the ability to raise and borrow money. This has been done by selling bonds, basically chunks of debt.
This is how corporations work. A corporation is a business owned by the stockholders. Most companies sell stock to raise money to start out with, this is called an IPO. But after a while if you keep selling stock you dilute the amount that each person owns. It is basically like taking on more and more partners in your company, meaning you own less, and you control less, and these partners share in the profits. So most companies find it much cheaper to borrow money by selling bonds. These stakeholders do not share in the profits or any upside in the company, but they also are the last to be hurt by and failure in the business. As the business operates they also accumulate other debts, to vendors and to employees. If a company fails it is just like a small business that fails. The owner equity is wiped out first, the assets are sold and the bond holders get paid first and in full, and then if there is any money left over the other debts are paid. Only after all of this is paid does the owner get anything.
In the history of large American business many companies have gone bankrupt, and it has always worked this way. Almost every time the stock is wiped out. Some companies survive by getting bought out, others simply restructure and are able to get out with little pain. But here is the big change. In recent times the government has gotten involved in being the largest bond holder of many companies, but the government does not look our for the best interest of US the tax payers, they don’t mind taking a loss.
See a few weeks ago Chrysler declared bankruptcy, and their stock was wiped out. The company basically had three large creditors; The Government, the Union for future pension and health insurance payment, and the bond holders. Lucky for Chrysler they found a buyer in Fiat for 35% of their restructured company, the problem is that this buyer is only willing to pay much less than what the company actually owes. The Government is not really looking to get their money back so they are willing to take a major loss, the problem is that the Government used TARP money to invest in Chrysler and that was illegal, but that is a mute point now, they are just rolling over. But the problem is that the Government and Obama have decided that the BULK of the money should go to the Union, heck Unions are the ones that put democrats in office. So the Government decided to write the plan in such a way to pay only 29% of debt owed on the 42.5 million of debt of the bond holders, the people who should be first in line. While the unions are getting 55% ownership in the new company, and the federal government is getting 10%. A group of the bond holders spoke up and rightly said that they were not being treated right, that they should be first in line, not last. The one Justice of the Supreme Court of the US saw it this way also and decided to stop the sale to Fiat under this current plan. A huge amount of pressure came from the White House to allow the Fiat sale to go on, and the Court caved today and let it go on.
Now what this does is it creates a terrible precedent in US law that bond holders are no longer first. This means that the people who invest get in bonds get none of the upside and much more of the downside risk, all for very little return. This move will freeze the bond markets even more, in a time that we need them very much. This also sets up the precedent for when GM finally gets done with their restructure. The correct thing to do would be to wipe out the Unions. These unions are the root cause for the failure of these companies. Line workers start at more than $70 per hour in pay and benefits, many with tenure make well over $100 per hour. And then they retire with a huge pension and a huge health care bill. With such a high labor cost the average vehicle made by GM had over $7,000 in labor cost. Newer, non-union plants owned by Nissan, Toyota and such have average labor costs per vehicle under $1,500. So if GM wanted to make a vehicle for a cost of $20k (Sales price much higher), they would have much less money to work with to buy materials and make profits, in fact they have not made profits for many years, and now pay thousands per vehicle to cover their debt. So if you spend only half that as your competition on the parts going into your product then your product can not be as good for the same price. So during the 80’s and 90’s they just built a lower quality car, and recently they started building a much higher quality car, but at a much higher price. In both situations it caused a steady march of customers away from these companies, and a vast loss in market share, making it even harder to do business. The unions were like a boa constrictor, killing the company by squeezing tighter and tighter, but the Obama plan for GM is to give the unions over 90% of what they were promised, and they have taken no real concessions, not even a payout. While the Government is willing to take only 60% of what GM owes the tax payers, and what about the bond holders. Well they are going to get somewhere between 19% and 29% of what they are owed. This is crazy really. But this is payback to the unions for supporting the democrats, and a step into the much more socialist America that we find ourselves in.
If secured creditors keep loosing their rights then our capital markets will simply fall apart. I was getting hopeful about our economy recently but this will really put a crimp on things. It also does that help that the federal government needs to issue over $100 billion in bonds each month just to stay afloat with all the spending that is going on. How much longer will people keep trusting in these bonds, when you see interest rates start to go up you will know that the trust is fading, and when that happens there will be even more trouble for us.